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	<title>Comments on: More @font-face fun</title>
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		<title>By: zoltan</title>
		<link>http://www.useragentman.com/blog/2009/10/09/more-font-face-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>zoltan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 19:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt: this is true up to a point - according to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.microsoft.com/typography/cleartypefaq.mspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Microsoft&#039;s ClearType FAQ&lt;/a&gt;, &quot;Original Equipment Manufacturers that pre-install Windows have the option of setting the ClearType default to on or off&quot;.  So it looks like it&#039;s more complicated than &quot;turned off by default in XP&quot;.

I had a hard time understanding why Microsoft just didn&#039;t turn it on by default, but after reading the comments on the IEBlog&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/03/03/543181.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ClearType in Internet Explorer 7&lt;/a&gt;, I can see that this is quite the emotional issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt: this is true up to a point &#8211; according to <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/typography/cleartypefaq.mspx" rel="nofollow">Microsoft&#8217;s ClearType FAQ</a>, &#8220;Original Equipment Manufacturers that pre-install Windows have the option of setting the ClearType default to on or off&#8221;.  So it looks like it&#8217;s more complicated than &#8220;turned off by default in XP&#8221;.</p>
<p>I had a hard time understanding why Microsoft just didn&#8217;t turn it on by default, but after reading the comments on the IEBlog&#8217;s <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/03/03/543181.aspx" rel="nofollow">ClearType in Internet Explorer 7</a>, I can see that this is quite the emotional issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Andrews</title>
		<link>http://www.useragentman.com/blog/2009/10/09/more-font-face-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ClearType&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;, &quot;ClearType was later introduced as an operating system feature in Windows XP, where it was kept turned off by default. In Windows Vista, ClearType is turned on by default&quot;.

That appears to be confirmed by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.microsoft.com/typography/ClearTypeInfo.mspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this Microsoft page&lt;/a&gt;, which contains a timeline listing WindowsXP as shipping with &quot;ClearType support&quot;, but Vista is listed as shipping with &quot;ClearType on by default&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ClearType" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a>, &#8220;ClearType was later introduced as an operating system feature in Windows XP, where it was kept turned off by default. In Windows Vista, ClearType is turned on by default&#8221;.</p>
<p>That appears to be confirmed by <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/typography/ClearTypeInfo.mspx" rel="nofollow">this Microsoft page</a>, which contains a timeline listing WindowsXP as shipping with &#8220;ClearType support&#8221;, but Vista is listed as shipping with &#8220;ClearType on by default&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: @font-face Is Cool… But Does It Scale? - Wasif Hafeez</title>
		<link>http://www.useragentman.com/blog/2009/10/09/more-font-face-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>@font-face Is Cool… But Does It Scale? - Wasif Hafeez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] * Paul Irish: Fighting the @font-face FOUT * Stoyan Stefanov: Gzip your @font-face files * Zoltan Hawryluk (again): More @font-face fun [...]</description>
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		<title>By: movito &#8211; Testing web fonts</title>
		<link>http://www.useragentman.com/blog/2009/10/09/more-font-face-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>movito &#8211; Testing web fonts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Zoltan Hawryluk: @font-face in depth and More @font-face fun [...]</description>
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		<title>By: zoltan</title>
		<link>http://www.useragentman.com/blog/2009/10/09/more-font-face-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>zoltan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brad: Some fonts do look better when ClearType is off than others.  For example take a look at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consolas&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikipedia page for the font Consolas&lt;/a&gt;.  The font looks great when clear-type is on (and even looks descent with gray-scale anti-aliasing), but with no anti-aliasing, it doesn&#039;t look so hot.   Other fonts, like Arial, look better, as shown in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.randomjabber.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Deron Sizemore&#039;s&lt;/a&gt;  article &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogtrepreneur.com/2007/11/12/start-testing-your-designs-with-and-without-cleartype/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Start Testing Your Designs With and Without ClearType&lt;/a&gt;.

A really good font, in my humble opinion, should be hinted correctly so that they look descent using any type of rendering technology.  The fonts I chose for Useragentman.com look &quot;all right&quot; without anti-aliasing, but I know other fonts do a better job.  It would be good to see how many fonts out there (both free and not) look really good with or without anti-aliasing technologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brad: Some fonts do look better when ClearType is off than others.  For example take a look at the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consolas" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia page for the font Consolas</a>.  The font looks great when clear-type is on (and even looks descent with gray-scale anti-aliasing), but with no anti-aliasing, it doesn&#8217;t look so hot.   Other fonts, like Arial, look better, as shown in <a href="http://www.randomjabber.com/" rel="nofollow">Deron Sizemore&#8217;s</a>  article <a href="http://www.blogtrepreneur.com/2007/11/12/start-testing-your-designs-with-and-without-cleartype/" rel="nofollow">Start Testing Your Designs With and Without ClearType</a>.</p>
<p>A really good font, in my humble opinion, should be hinted correctly so that they look descent using any type of rendering technology.  The fonts I chose for Useragentman.com look &#8220;all right&#8221; without anti-aliasing, but I know other fonts do a better job.  It would be good to see how many fonts out there (both free and not) look really good with or without anti-aliasing technologies.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Kemper</title>
		<link>http://www.useragentman.com/blog/2009/10/09/more-font-face-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Kemper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don’t all fonts look like ass in Windows when there is no ClearType/anti-aliasing turned on? These don&#039;t looks any worse than other un-aliased fonts to me.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t all fonts look like ass in Windows when there is no ClearType/anti-aliasing turned on? These don&#8217;t looks any worse than other un-aliased fonts to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ajaxian &#187; @font-face Is Cool&#8230; But Does It Scale?</title>
		<link>http://www.useragentman.com/blog/2009/10/09/more-font-face-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Ajaxian &#187; @font-face Is Cool&#8230; But Does It Scale?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] * Paul Irish: Fighting the @font-face FOUT * Stoyan Stefanov: Gzip your @font-face files * Zoltan Hawryluk (again): More @font-face fun [...]</description>
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		<title>By: zoltan</title>
		<link>http://www.useragentman.com/blog/2009/10/09/more-font-face-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>zoltan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the information!  It&#039;s great to see Opera being so transparent about how they are fixing this issue.  Much appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the information!  It&#8217;s great to see Opera being so transparent about how they are fixing this issue.  Much appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Leif Arne Storset</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leif Arne Storset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Opera SVG problem you mention is actually two separate issues. The one Håkon commented on is triggered by multiple styles and weights. The other is triggered by visiting multiple pages, or backtracking. I should note that this only applies to SVG fonts, as far as I can tell. Hopefully both will be fixed soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Opera SVG problem you mention is actually two separate issues. The one Håkon commented on is triggered by multiple styles and weights. The other is triggered by visiting multiple pages, or backtracking. I should note that this only applies to SVG fonts, as far as I can tell. Hopefully both will be fixed soon!</p>
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